Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc Subject: Re: Freemasons and Christians: How Compatable Are They? References: <1992Sep16.101738.16471@hsr.no> <80266@ut-emx.uucp> tbutterf@ut-emx.uucp (Jeff Butterfield) writes: >A friend of mine is hooking up with the local Masonic lodge and has been >suggesting it to me as well. Before I nose around I am curious about a >few things: >[1] What is Masonry...is it a religion? >[2] How compatible are Masonry and Christianity?? >[3] There is talk of blood oaths and similar activities?? > Are these stories true?? Is it all in fun or serious?? This is a frequently discussed question, and tends to lead to months of discussion. As far as I can tell from the outside, based on what Masons say, books written for Masons describing Masonry, etc, (1) Masonry is not exactly a religion. It requires members to believe in a Supreme Being, and some of its ceremonies appear to refer to him and use symbolism that is religious. I think when Masons say it is not a religion they mean (a) that it does not perform all of the functions you'd expect of a Church, etc., so that members should also belong to a church or other religious organization, and (b) that it is compatible with a wide variety of religions, so it does not have specific doctrinal stances. However there do seem to be definite religious overtones. (2) Some conservative Christians consider it incompatible. Others consider it compatible. The problems seem to be (a) that while it is not overtly a religion, it does have ceremonies with some religious overtones, and those ceremonies are not exclusively Christian. Many Christians believe that all of their religious activities should be explicitly Christian. Whether the Masonic activities are sufficiently religious to violate this is a matter of judgement, on which good Christians are divided (b) It fosters an acceptance of men of good will belong to all religions. Many Christians believe that this is done in a way that suggests that non-Christian religions are equally acceptable, a position that many (most?) Christians do not agree with. Again, this is a matter of judgement, which has good Christians on both sides. (3) When dealing with secret societies, it is hard to be absolutely certain that we know all their secrets. There are solemn oaths involved in Masonry. However a number of apparently Godly persons assure us that Masons claim no authority to enforce these oaths if someone violates them. That is, any penalties that are mentioned are to be taken symbolically or morally -- Masons do not have hit squads that kill people who violate their oaths. The mix of fun and seriousness differs with the branch of Masonry. There are serious philosophical/speculative aspects to Masonry, but different people take these with varying degrees of seriousness. For more information, you might want to refer to a companion document, in the subdirectory "others", called "masonry". It has a copy of the Bull (official statement by the Roman Catholic Pope) condemning Masonry, a defense of Masonry by a Disciples of Christ minister, and details on the Bavarian Illuminati (who are not Masons, but are often confused with them).